[bcppl]

The Canadian Triple Crown Championships webcast is officially live! For the next two days, the CPPL/BCPPL/IPL will be providing top-tier on-field coverage of the hottest games going down in the country. The webcast is hosted by famed local paintball celebrity Stormin Norman, who will be giving both play-by-play and color commentary throughout the weekend. Norm will be joined by a number of different paintball guests throughout the webcast.

Today's show starts at 11am, with Sunday's broadcast beginning at 10am. Registration for the webcast takes just 30 seconds for unlimited access to the world-class coverage of Canada’s (soon to be) most well-known paintball tournament.

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This post has been edited by bcppl: 12 June 2010 - 11:56 AM

[tomn8r]

well i must say i wasn't expecting the total bashing, dissing and crappy things said against my character LIVE on the bcppl webcast by norm trotter when the mike was on. total character assasination by a so called 'friend' of more than 20 years. (4:45pm). wanting to see me 'fukkin die' is shiddy. slander about my character is totally disrespectful, unprofessional and prolly illegal.

i would have expected a clean presentation without swearing or singling-out of some1 who gives as much to the players as we do. to say i am hurt personally is an understatement. born again?

i won't sling back or dis or character-assasinate back - but i was shocked to hear these degrading and unfair comments coming from the bcppl webcast. it doesn't matter if norm knew the microphone was on or not - this is the kind of b.s. b.c. ball doesn't need. live on webcast? wtf.

This post has been edited by tomn8r: 12 June 2010 - 05:32 PM

[joshua]

WOW. weak. very weak. that person probably should be banned from broadcasting.

[tomn8r]

you know, the bcppl has done a lot to advance the sport to a level none of us longtimers could have dreamed; there's a league-supported pro team; venues such as the cloverdale agriplex; sometimes you get trade shows...... the webcast is cool too! let's face it, a few years back, mike m. was able to negotiate a 'truce', as it were between the major players in b.c. 'ball (a collective of us, pbl west, panther and ambush) and raise the speedball tourny level to new heights. so in no way would i consider connecting the league directly to norm's comments.

but from 4:00pm til prolly 6pm (had to turn it off) - in that time frame i heard at least 1/2 dozen 'tom palmer this or tom palmer that', how our program goes nowhere, how he wishes i was 'bleeping' dead?!' i mean every time he interviewed someone remotely connected to our programs; ravenous, supernaturals, run 4 the guns', the cage, etc., he steered to comments that were derogatory or outright slanderous. it's hard to hear everything cuz i have 4 kids screaming in the background, but how many times did norm outright steer and flame? - it was crazy! i'm going to assume mike m. was unaware of this for i would assume he'd make an attempt to curtail the inflamatory comments against me or any of the programs i'm attached to.

central island paintball, the vancouver island paintball club, the cage, the supernaturals, the run4 the guns, paintballevents.ca, our new pro-shop in nanaimo, - all the programs we support like 'island united', island young guns, our bushball initiatives - all of these 'programs' and 'events' are professionally run and done so with the player's interest first and foremost. we regularly sponsor 3 or 4 teams, we donate, we volunteer, we contribute - being a team run club/family business, obviously we're a little upset.

This post has been edited by tomn8r: 12 June 2010 - 09:59 PM

[ian]

That's pretty much sop for norm. When we used to play for norm he would devote ten to twenty minutes slagging tom off every weekend.

[peterb_92]

that person probably should be banned from broadcasting.

lol. that person is one of the most iconic paintball figures on the island/bc. just saying. thats really shity to hear though tom, im glad i wasnt apart of the drama that unfolded in the webcast booth. aside from all that it was an awesome tournament. anyone who didnt go you missed out.

[joshua]

that person probably should be banned from broadcasting.

lol. that person is one of the most iconic paintball figures on the island/bc. just saying. thats really shity to hear though tom, im glad i wasnt apart of the drama that unfolded in the webcast booth. aside from all that it was an awesome tournament. anyone who didnt go you missed out.

well in my opinion being "iconic" doesnt give you a license to slander people on a live webcast no matter who it is. an Icon should be setting a good example for people not a bad example. thats just common sense. not very professional or tactful. but hey thats just my opinion and thats all i have to say on the matter.

glad the weather held out for you all and good job islanders!

[Cockerbeatsmag]

man.. someone opened a big case of uh-oh

[Fifthplanecomin]

Those comments clearly did not need to be live streamed.

Sadly the remarks are not only found on the interweb.
They are abundant from dozens of players past and present.

The amount of Tom Palmer hate out there is kind of sickning.
It's sad that it exsists in such volumes and was accidently brought out to others threw computer speaker volumes.

Raw Deal Dude. Raw Deal.

Most of us from around the scene form our own opinions and have ear filters known as a brains when it comes to hearing hate about anyone.
Sometimes however a live webcast can not provide any filters to innocent impressionable listeners.

This post has been edited by Fifthplanecomin: 14 June 2010 - 09:54 PM

[Cheap-o]

Okay, all I will say is don't add fuel to the fire guys. Let Tom and the broadcaster/bcppl sort it out on their own accord.

things like "hey tom so and so says this all the time about you" or "hey bud, Tom thinks you are an <swear filter>" don't help anything.

[Fifthplanecomin]

well they both have just made this more public than it's ever needed to be
most of us will just have to turn our filters(brains) on and mouths off

that can be hard for ballers sometimes and of course I include myself in such a statement and in light of recent events a few ballers beotches need to exercise the switch use as well. all drama aside - this has been an epic weekend

This post has been edited by Fifthplanecomin: 15 June 2010 - 07:03 AM

[tomn8r]

yeah, the amount of tom palmer hate out there certainly is sickening. and yeah, it's unfortunate that impessionable minds out there will have been reached by norm's hate.

truth is, i've made my own bed and it's my cross to bear. i have no one to blame but myself. so i won't be pointing any fingers or making any excuses and i won't be firing-off any counter-attacks.

[Fifthplanecomin]

In my six years Tom I've never heard you fire off an attack on anyone. A neutral observational question or two for clarification has been asked but never heard a direct negative comment or insult. Unfortionatly we are not all created equal. You and Norm will squash this out soon enough.

[Cockerbeatsmag]

i dont feel the BCPPL can be blamed for what happened, they cannot control everything that is said, and im sure what was said was not meant to be said live, even though that doesnt make it any better but i dare anyone to say they have never talked trash about someone else behind their back, ill be the first to say i have.

while i dont like hearing what was said and i feel for tom and his rep being deficated on it was still said and we cant turn back time, all that we can do now is wait and see what norm and tom do about this, in time this will just be a minor spike in the timeline of paintball, and a even smaller spike in the timeline of the world

[stress69]

mod....please close this......this is not worthy of a thread........

[ShadoWalker]

mod....please close this......this is not worthy of a thread........

So far it's civil and fairly quiet, as long as it stays that way I see no reason to squelch it. With that said I guess it's time for me to officially weigh in on it *shrug*

I didn't catch the broadcast so am not sure what exactly was air'd but the discussion of it has so far stayed far more civil than most such historical occurances or political flare ups in our community and I'd rather encourage that level of maturity than squash a legitimate vent on, what sounds like, commentary not really suitable for airing. That kind of personal stuff makes the BCPPL broadcast look unprofessional, regardless of the reasons for it happening I hope Norm knows it looks bad and that they (the BCPPL as an organization, and Norm as a host) will work to make sure their broadcasts hold to a higher standard in the future. They hold everything else with their tourneys to such a great level from the player side, but the commentary is the publicly visible "outsider/non-player" view which is just as important for the growth of the sport.

Everyone that's been in the paintball community for any length of time knows that there's politics and history between Norm and Tom, I'm not going to pick sides in it and don't really care too much about where it comes from. Neither is perfect but airing that kind of politics out in public view doesn't do either of their reputations any good (Toms by being smeared, Norms by airing that kind of stuff on a public broadcast).

SW

[joshua]

mod....please close this......this is not worthy of a thread........

So far it's civil and fairly quiet, as long as it stays that way I see no reason to squelch it. With that said I guess it's time for me to officially weigh in on it *shrug*

I didn't catch the broadcast so am not sure what exactly was air'd but the discussion of it has so far stayed far more civil than most such historical occurances or political flare ups in our community and I'd rather encourage that level of maturity than squash a legitimate vent on, what sounds like, commentary not really suitable for airing. That kind of personal stuff makes the BCPPL broadcast look unprofessional, regardless of the reasons for it happening I hope Norm knows it looks bad and that they (the BCPPL as an organization, and Norm as a host) will work to make sure their broadcasts hold to a higher standard in the future. They hold everything else with their tourneys to such a great level from the player side, but the commentary is the publicly visible "outsider/non-player" view which is just as important for the growth of the sport.

Everyone that's been in the paintball community for any length of time knows that there's politics and history between Norm and Tom, I'm not going to pick sides in it and don't really care too much about where it comes from. Neither is perfect but airing that kind of politics out in public view doesn't do either of their reputations any good (Toms by being smeared, Norms by airing that kind of stuff on a public broadcast).

SW

you word things so much better than me. what you wrote basically sums up the message i was trying to relay. i was a little concerned when my son heard some of the language but i will know for next time to wear my headphones.

[Fifthplanecomin]

what you wrote basically sums up the message i was trying to relay

SW has nailed it down the same way a lot of people view it.

Dylan has it right as well. The only difference on this weekends Tom bashing compaired to any others I've heard is that it was on the webcast this time.

Heck, I heard more of the same old stories of another promoter this weekend than those in refference to Palmer - and I honestly can't care about the stories on anyone - I gauge my experience with the person and form my own opinion. It's called using your brain.

If I share my opinion on someone it's to share my experience and allow someone to be aware that they could experience the same. Out right negative bashing is uncool even if it could be of popular opinion.

If you are someone in a position of influence or someone that hosts a party and your actions as a host turn you into a party pooper well...then the stories begin about your poopy party.

Boring Forum Topic...........yaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnn, stretch, yaaaaawnnnn some more - NEXT!

OH!
I also just took a look inside my computer at the Island Paintball Forum gauges and they all seem normal.

This post has been edited by Fifthplanecomin: 16 June 2010 - 06:02 PM