[Zero-Niner]

As posted in another tread, We might have a serious snag with this event guys. I have been contacted by Timber West’s property management division today over email and been told we do not have permission in placed to hold this event and it will be trespassing.

I have responded to her and hopefully will be able to come to an agreement. I'm not sure if they believe the site is being used for a profit venture or what and the reason why the outstanding permission given to use the site in the past is not valid. Or if it has expired, forgotten or what. I hope to find out more tomorrow when she response. Lets keep our figures crossed and work with Timber West to resolve this matter, as we don't want this to go sour and ruin this weekend and future use of this area.

Hopefully we can come to an agreement that protects all our interests, but be prepared to give and take a little. I think the advertisment of paint sales is what set the alarm bells going or someone local ratted us out as I have seen some negitive posts on alberni.ca about paintballers using the area in the past. I don't know, but I will try everythig I can to resolve this issue. I'll keep in touch.

[Fifthplanecomin]

UH OH SPEGHETTI-O's

[Wingnut]

A metric ton of preparation has already gone into this event, and there's already storm clouds brewing over the event (literally! BCcrawlerz just informed me via MSN that we're looking at some pretty crappy weather this weekend), and now this?

Damn it all...

[Fifthplanecomin]

I'll play if it's raining frogs and I will crawl through a foot of mud - but then again I'm crazy.
Hopefully this minor Timber West stuff gets sorted out - it's probably just a miscommunication issue as suspected.

This post has been edited by Fifthplanecomin: 17 May 2010 - 05:19 PM

[Wingnut]

I'm all for bad weather! I -love- camping in the rain, and I -love- playing in the mud. Always have!

I'm NOT so awesome with getting charged with trespassing, though. That may make it even more difficult for me to find work as a security guard.

<swear filter> <swear filter> <swear filter>ing <swear filter>s and their <swear filter>ing <swear filter>s tied in a knot!*


*note: The above is not actual swearing, but rather just creative self-censorship. Just so you know, mods.

[camoking]

This is not very good,

I've had dealings with Timber West before and basically the only thing they want happening on their land is clear cut logging. Up until recently I worked as a commercial bee keeper, and the company that I worked for had been using Timber West's forrest lands for decades as areas for bees, about two years ago for no apparent reason they basically kicked us and all the other beekeepers off their land. Anyhow hopefully this matter can be resolved, and we'll be able to play.

[parksos]

UH OH SPEGHETTI-O's

Made my night,,,


Even though im not going thats really lame... you should ask them if you can pay them 10$ per person they can make good money and also do what ever they want after??

[Fatty]

A metric ton of preparation has already gone into this event, and there's already storm clouds brewing over the event (literally! BCcrawlerz just informed me via MSN that we're looking at some pretty crappy weather this weekend), and now this?

Damn it all...

Weather Network says 30% chance of precipitation for Saturday; up to 1mm.
40% for Sunday; up to 1mm.
C'mon... that's not pretty crappy! Are you from Vancouver Island or what?
I've got a tarp big enough to cover a small speedball field (OK, I'm exaggerating- it's 40' x 30')... I can bring it if anyone wants, but I doubt there's a spot where the trees are that far apart. I've got a pile of smaller tarps as well, which I will bring.

Just replace your speed-feed with the stock lid & don't worry about the weather!

[Wingnut]

A metric ton of preparation has already gone into this event, and there's already storm clouds brewing over the event (literally! BCcrawlerz just informed me via MSN that we're looking at some pretty crappy weather this weekend), and now this?

Damn it all...

Weather Network says 30% chance of precipitation for Saturday; up to 1mm.
40% for Sunday; up to 1mm.
C'mon... that's not pretty crappy! Are you from Vancouver Island or what?
I've got a tarp big enough to cover a small speedball field (OK, I'm exaggerating- it's 40' x 30')... I can bring it if anyone wants, but I doubt there's a spot where the trees are that far apart. I've got a pile of smaller tarps as well, which I will bring.

Just replace your speed-feed with the stock lid & don't worry about the weather!

Not worried, just passing on what I've been hearing. Crawlerz didn't exactly pass on any stats, but now that you have, you're right - I've gotten wetter during a ferry ride to Powell River! This is nothing.

As for the tarp, that's EXACTLY what we'll need for the safe zone, great idea. I'll see if I've got any in a similar size, and pack it in my gearbag with a whopping big load of Paracord (to string it all up)... just in case Zero-Niner and Co. can work something out with The Man.

This post has been edited by Wingnut: 17 May 2010 - 06:16 PM

[Zero-Niner]

In the email she sent me they mentioned there was no agreement. So hopefully we can get an agreement made. I basically believe they are more worried about liability and want to remove them selves from any and to protect there trees. I believe the group in campbell River has an agreement with Timber West for there area (i could be wrong, just waht I remember hearing) and they basically can't cut trees, put nails in them or anything like that.

Lets all wait and see what they say. I'm sure they don't want to have bad press over stopping paintball in a place they have allowed it in the past.

So everyone stay patient and lets follow procedures to increase our success in this matter.

[Fatty]

When tomn8r (or any other Nanaimo outlaw baller for that matter) gets around to reading this thread, perhaps he/she could suggest an alternative spot, just in case this issue doesn't blow over. (hint-hint). I'd rather alter plans than cancel them if necessary. I'm not familiar with any outlaw fields down that-a-way, so if anybody knows a good alternate field with room to camp, please post-up! We might need it.

[Fatty]

I believe the group in campbell River has an agreement with Timber West for there area (i could be wrong, just waht I remember hearing) and they basically can't cut trees, put nails in them or anything like that.

Yeah, that was John of J&J paintball who aquired that permission some 15 years ago. I think Timber West is the land-owner up there, but I'm not really sure. The stipulations of the agreement were (are): No nails in live trees, and no permanent structures, and that's it. Sadly, not everyone knows the stipulations, or perhaps they just don't care, so there has been some recent (last year or two) building involving nails in trees. So far, the land owner hasn't tore the place down, but time will tell...

I imagine the same stipulations must have been in place when the Hump field agreement took effect. Now, I wasn't really looking carefully at the structures up there when I was there, but it's hard to imagine that there aren't any nails in trees up there. And if there's nails in trees, then the agreement is broken, & guess where Timber West will tell us to shove it?

[TNT Paintball]

Timberwest has been putting a stop to almost all recreational activities on their land for a while now. Some idiots torched some of their heavy duty equipment from what I heard and since then they don't want anyone on their property. One of those situations where a couple of idiots ruin the fun fro everyone else.

As far as bad press goes from not letting a bunch of paintballers play on their land...I'm pretty sure they aren't too worrried about it. They would be muuch more worried about one of those paintballers (or innocent bypasser) getting hurt on their land.

[WestCoastBaller]

if timberwest owns that land, then many years ago when the original Port Alberni 'Ballers started up there, they may or may not have talked to them about creating the field. i'm sure the TW reps' knew that building a paintball field would come down to hammering some nails into the trees. 99% of those blinds and bunkers have been nailed to those trees for many years. they are still alive. trees fall down dead all the time without nails in them. if TW wants those trees for lumber they will have to wait a few more years until they are big enough to cut a 2x4 out of.

i'm sorry to hear that TW is threatening to remove our access to the field. I am choked, and will be very upset if TW actually closes access. if that happens we will just have to find another area and start over. I'm not going to stop playing in Alberni just because some TW dude says so. I'm sure we can find someone with some land or maybe some Crown land and get permission from the city or whoever and build bigger and better, and TW can keep their "useless for timber" field. if they haven't needed it yet they won't ever need it. they have thousands and thousands of Acres of trees that are more suited for whatever they need them for.

-1 for TW

[Fifthplanecomin]

I guess we're all invading Toms backyard in Nanaimo now.
You're ready to host a 100 campers on your lot aren't you Tom?

[tomn8r]

well i can almost 99.9% guarantee there will be no agreement with timber west. no way no how as if forget it. and that's how the renegade cookie crumbles un4tunately ha ha.
k so here we sit. (i just heard the news). so imma bit unprepared 4 some great idea outta th' seat of my pants. - but all is not lost. we have many leaders and creativists etc. in the community. an alternate location? boot lagoon? i dunno. it wouldn't really be a problem having campers and players on the weekend at my place in nanaimo. it would be short notice etc. but i'm a believer in what we all have going with island united and the big game formats.

if it goes at my place:

- no aditional costs
- people are gonna wanna carpool, like squeeze 3-4 per vehicle would be a must
- we'd need volunteers to bring some of the speedball bunkers up from duncan to enhance what's here
- prolly best to keep it to one day (sunday) in light of the 'situation' but i'm flexible

an alternate port alberni location would be better but there'd be no forts...... hmmmm other ideas fella's?

This post has been edited by tomn8r: 17 May 2010 - 08:33 PM

[Fifthplanecomin]

We make friends with PA cops - have them evacuate the downtown core and we play a urban assault games for the day.

It'll cost us a lot of donuts and the clean up is going to take forever but it'll be hella fun.

[Maximus Prime]

We make friends with PA cops - have them evacuate the downtown core and we play a urban assault games for the day.

It'll cost us a lot of donuts and the clean up is going to take forever but it'll be hella fun.

That is my paintball dream. That and playing the Oklahoma D-Day Scenario Game.

[peterb_92]

as much as i hate woodsball/scenario that would be so dope.

[joshua]

<swear filter>.

[joshua]

i would ask pete at midway but i dont think he would want to do it without making some kind of profit. <swear filter> i hate people who cant stand to see other people have a good time....<swear filter> me sideways!!! <swear filter> piss <swear filter> cock!!

[joshua]

okay, i messaged pete from midway on facebook seeing if we could use his 100 acre field with toms deals and off field paint allowed. its a long shot but im trying.

another possible option? rezzdawgs field perhaps?

[Fatty]

okay, i messaged pete from midway on facebook seeing if we could use his 100 acre field with toms deals and off field paint allowed. its a long shot but im trying.

another possible option? rezzdawgs field perhaps?

That would be very sweet of Pete to do so... even with the standard field fees.
What is "Rezzdawgs" field?

[Zero-Niner]

before we all jump overboard, lets wait until we hear back today. its only 6:45am still

[tomn8r]

we'll be willing to host the island's united in nanaimo if everything falls apart with the hump. sunday only. camping saturday nite for those who wish. free. huge view. lotsa room. fires okay. so's beers ..........

if i know it's a go, i'll prep everything to accomodate every1. it's a small field but it's thick with lotsa variety. covered staging area. washroom for the ladies. coffee.

no additional 'field fee'
no increase in paint costs - still starting in the $30/case range

if you're camping i have a 4200 sq. ft. house under construction on site (with a roof) players can go into.

the hump would be ideal, but from my understanding, timberwest won't allow it which is a shame - but life. i realize a lot of players like the renegade 'feel' and i do too. we can regroup and do another biggie at some of the other renegade locations for the one after this weekend. every city has a renegade field.

This post has been edited by tomn8r: 18 May 2010 - 08:17 AM