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Posted 29 March 2009 - 09:23 PM

I have an issue with my TM... my solenoid is not firing. I pulled the gun apart several times, reset the board, played with batteries, poked at the solenoid with no result.

I took my multimeter to the solenoid wires, and got a resistance of 3.3 Ohms through the coil. I measured the solenoid wires coming out of the board and got a reading of .43-.56 volts on full auto, this seems *way* too low to me. I think the voltage should be on the order of 9-18 volts to trigger the solenoid. Does anyone have actual electrical specs for this marker, or can measure the same parts on their marker?

It's a first gen marker ( I think, serial number is below 2000, board reads version 1.0) but the firing selector icons are engraved.
Kinda sucks, because that leaves me with an expensive paperweight.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 09:30 PM

I know one of the guys had board issues with their TM7 as well, they had to send it back and get a new board. It was either RockFrog or KK, can't remember which of them had the issue though.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 10:01 PM

Mine fried first game and BT (KEE) sent me a new board, Gary's (KK) power switch went titters and they made him send back the whole marker. It;s the o;d classic new platform, new problems ... sadly it would seem BT rushed a bit too quickly to get it out there. Mainly it seems the original assembly boards are the faults, I haven't heard of a replacement failing yet.

Either way it was fixed by BT in good time. Just call the tech number in the back of your manual (paintball solutions). ]FYI there should be a 9v signal to the solenoid for ?ms (can't remember the duration) to open it, then a pause of the dwell setting, and then a reversed polarity pulse to close the solenoid. that may be screwing your voltage readings.
Can't remember If we talked about this one Staurday - but did you pull the solenoid cap (brass), and remove the piston and the sleeve - you'd remember this one, the piston is a bugger to get out the first time, and there's usually some epoxy floating around in there fom assembly. Lightly oil, or leave dry upon re-assembly. Many have reported this has cured a non-functioning solenoid.

Don't get mad here - the eyes are off right?

I have a copy of the board schematics if you want.

Might be time to use the Warranty card.

This post has been edited by Rockfrog: 29 March 2009 - 10:02 PM

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE (Rockfrog @ Mar 29 2009, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mine fried first game and BT (KEE) sent me a new board, Gary's (KK) power switch went titters and they made him send back the whole marker. It;s the o;d classic new platform, new problems ... sadly it would seem BT rushed a bit too quickly to get it out there. Mainly it seems the original assembly boards are the faults, I haven't heard of a replacement failing yet.

Either way it was fixed by BT in good time. Just call the tech number in the back of your manual (paintball solutions). ]FYI there should be a 9v signal to the solenoid for ?ms (can't remember the duration) to open it, then a pause of the dwell setting, and then a reversed polarity pulse to close the solenoid. that may be screwing your voltage readings.

Can't remember If we talked about this one Staurday - but did you pull the solenoid cap (brass), and remove the piston and the sleeve - you'd remember this one, the piston is a bugger to get out the first time, and there's usually some epoxy floating around in there fom assembly. Lightly oil, or leave dry upon re-assembly. Many have reported this has cured a non-functioning solenoid.

I have pulled the solenoid apart, but only took off the brass cap and the stainless inner sleeve, I didn't feel comfortable pulling the piston out at the time, but I'll just wack it against my table or something to get out.

Don't get mad here - the eyes are off right?

Yes smile.gif

I have a copy of the board schematics if you want.

I'd appreciate it.

Might be time to use the Warranty card.

Might be right.


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Posted 30 March 2009 - 07:20 PM

Ok, so I took the solenoid totally apart. I found the smallest pair of needlenose pliers I had and got the piston out with no damage done, oiled the piston and put it all back together; works like a charm now. Thanks, Dave.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (Twinkletoes @ Mar 30 2009, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, so I took the solenoid totally apart. I found the smallest pair of needlenose pliers I had and got the piston out with no damage done, oiled the piston and put it all back together; works like a charm now. Thanks, Dave.

glad to hear it's up again ... I found fishermans forceps perfect for those tiny spaces.
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