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#1 User is offline   EternalReaper 

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Posted 21 May 2004 - 08:41 PM

Ok, I am pretty sure that there is some people that don't understand Autocockers too well, so im writing this article to help that. For instance, did you know that un-like semi-automatic paintball guns, the bolt of an autococker doesnt actually hit the ball to make it accelerate. On an autococker, the only thing that actually hits the ball is air.

A little bit of history...
For those of you who didnt allready know, Autocockers used to be pump guns, until pneumatics (Pronounced: New-mat-icks) were added to the front of the gun to pump it for you. The Autococker was originaly designed by Glenn Palmer. Then Budd Orr, the founder of Worr Games Products (WGP) improved on Palmers design and apptly named it "The Autococker". So next time you hear the back block of your Autococker silently slide back & forth, thank Glenn, then Budd happy.gif Onward!

How your Autococker works...
Despite what you may think, theres actually more going on inside that chunk of shiney metal than you think.

Note: To better make sence of this, please refer to the diagrams near the bottom of post to better understand what is actually happening.

When you pull that trigger the sear is lowered, allowing the hammer to fly forward and open the cup seal on the valve, which in-turn allows air to flow through the valve, up into the bolt, hence propelling the paintball out of your gun. And thats just the start. Right after your gun fires and you havent released the trigger yet, the pneumatics push the back block backwards, which does two things at once. First, it pulls the cocking rod back which cocks the gun; And secondly, it pulls the bolt back and allows another ball to fall into the chamber. As you release the trigger, the pneumatics get back to work and pull the back block back to it's initial position. The gun is now ready to shoot again. all of that happens in the matter of around a couple milli-seconds. Alot going on huh? Yeah, thats what i thought.

Helpfull Diagrams

Note on the diagrams: All of these diagrams represent autocockers with "Slide Triggers", all of the new cockers have "Hinge Triggers". The only differance between the two is this. With a slide trigger, when you pull the trigger it pulls the timinig rod back, and when you release the trigger it pushes it forward. But with a Hinge Frame Trigger, when you pull the trigger it pushes the timinig rod forward, and when you release it it pulls the timinig rod back. The only other differance is the position of the hoses coming out of the 3-Way, and going into the STO Ram. Everything else in the guns are the same.

- All the parts of an Autococker
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- An animated version of the above image. Note: The blue stuff is air
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- A 3D Autococker animation
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I strongly suggest to anyone who wants to know more about cockers to check out this link. it's an animated Autococker, you click on a piece of the Autococker and it in-larges it and gives you some info on it; It's really cool, just check it out, trust me.

http://thecog.bizland.com/diagram.html

I would just like to congradulate you for reading my brief, but informative article on Autocockers. I hope it helped you, or atleast imiproved your Autococker Knowledge, I will be adding a section on timing Autocockers soon. If you see anything wrong/incorrect with what was said in this article, please inform me with a PM so I can fix it asap. Thx

This post has been edited by EternalReaper: 21 May 2004 - 10:24 PM

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Posted 21 May 2004 - 08:50 PM

Very well written article, EternalReaper. This will be an excellent aid for people new to Autocockers. Mods should sticky this. smile.gif
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (Chris @ May 21 2004, 09:50 PM)
Very well written article, EternalReaper. This will be an excellent aid for people new to Autocockers. Mods should sticky this. smile.gif

Thanks alot Chris biggrin.gif
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 08:53 PM

Pretty good, but one slight addendum. The use of pneumatics to recock the gun, and thus the auto-cocking principle was designed by Glenn Palmer. His personal hurricane "Camille" was the first such gun to ever exist. Sadly, it was stolen awhile back sad.gif
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (Phantom Power @ May 21 2004, 09:53 PM)
Pretty good, but one slight addendum. The use of pneumatics to recock the gun, and thus the auto-cocking principle was designed by Glenn Palmer. His personal hurricane "Camille" was the first such gun to ever exist. Sadly, it was stolen awhile back sad.gif

Thanks Phantom Power, I didnt know that, cool. But I think Budd Orr was the first person to actually dubb it an "Autococker" and start producing them, but he might (Probably) have stolen the idea from Glenn Palmer.
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 09:06 PM

Hey PhantomPower. I changed the History section a little bit to reflect what you told me about Glenn Palmer, and thanks for pinning this happy.gif
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 09:32 PM

MOST INFORMITIVE COCKER' ARTICLE I"VE EVER READ!!!!!!!!!

most articls waste time on pointless things and dont show us pics, to help us understand, all's i can say is WOW

WOW, i've learned more about cockers than all the articles i've read,

thanks soo much


ps WOW
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (jimboo77 @ May 21 2004, 10:32 PM)
MOST INFORMITIVE COCKER' ARTICLE I"VE EVER READ!!!!!!!!!

most articls waste time on pointless things and dont show us pics, to help us understand, all's i can say is WOW

WOW, i've learned more about cockers than all the articles i've read,

thanks soo much


ps WOW

Excellent, im glad you learned alot. And thanks alot btw. When I was first learning about cockers I was so incredibly confused, and itt took a while to understand how everything worked, but once you understand it it all seems easy. Plus, it's really interesting biggrin.gif

Thanks btw
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Posted 28 July 2004 - 03:38 PM

Amazing thread Reaper!

One word: Sticky.


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Posted 28 July 2004 - 09:32 PM

Dude... I have so much more respect for cockers now!! happy.gif
Great job on explaning how it all works biggrin.gif
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 09:38 AM

Domo Arigato Mr Roboto happy.gif. Thanks guys
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